Marrying a member of the same gender is not the same as marrying a person of a different race because race and gender are not parallel, they’re not the same and here’s why. There is no difference between a white human and a black human’s psyche, but there are immense differences between a man and a woman’s psyche. Men and women are equal but not the same. If you are attracted to men and not women (regardless of your gender) you notice that men and women are not the same too, if you are attracted to women and not men (regardless of your gender) you notice that men and women are not the same also.
A lot of these traditional marriage beliefs also have to do with children. People who are against same-sex marriage, believe children should think when they grow up they will get married, they should not have to think at 5 or 6 years old, am I going to marry a boy or a girl, children today face enough sexual confusion without adding that.
When it comes to raising children, most people believe that two men can not replace 1 good mother’s role in a (boy or girl) child’s development, and most people believe two women can not replace 1 good father’s role in a (boy or girl) child’s development. I don’t think two men could replace my mother and give me the things my mother gave me, and I don’t think two women could replace my father and give me the things my father gave me, and that’s how most of the people who are against gay marriage feel. Thinking men and women both have different, but equally important qualities, is legit.
The argument is some homosexuals believe in same sex marriage, since gays are discriminated against they feel we should redefine marriage, because they want to have their relationships honored in the law, but the same argument could be said for Muslims and polygamy.
Some Muslims believe in polygamy, since Muslims are discriminated against should we redefine marriage to where polygamy is legal, because they want to have their relationships honored in the law?
For those of you who want to just call me hateful, a bigot, or homophobic, for a respectful, civil, legitimate, argument without articulating a response, just leave your stupid comment and move on.How is interracial marriage and same sex marriage the same?
The two types of marriage are not in themselves the same. They are legally similar. The opponents of either like to equate them to get a knee-jerk reaction. What they are is legally similar. Both involve an assumed right to pursue happiness (marriage) -- most Americans assume marriage is something people in generally should be allowed. Both involve less common partners than the status quo. Both were/are often opposed by the majority. Both were subject to an attempted constitutional ban. And, like interracial marriage, I fear that same-sex marriage will need the Supreme Court to finally step in before it will become an equal right. Looking at their histories, the two situations are more similar than not.
You can't generalize that opposite sex parents are better just because you had them and feel you had an ideal upbringing. I've known several people with same-sex parents; they all turned out healthy and well-adjusted (and not that it matters, but heterosexual as well). I can't say the same for all the people I've known with opposite-sex parents -- there are some messed up people out there. If I were to generalize from that, it certainly would support same-sex parenting. But I don't generalize like that -- it's not fair. People raise their children as best they can, whether it's two mothers or one mother and one father.
I won't call you hateful, nor bigot (though that shoe could fit mighty well). It's just ignorance, and that's forgivable and curable. In any case, unless you're planning to marry someone of the same gender, it really isn't something you should be weighing in on too heavily.How is interracial marriage and same sex marriage the same?
No two marriages are the same either are they?
What about your childhood makes you so hateful and bigoted as you are. I pity you. BTW, I am currently involved in a long term heterosexual relationship and do not agree with homosexuality per say either, but their choice is just that, their choice.
My mom and dad are two different ethnicities and obviously that is not the same as two men or two women.
I have respect if a two men or two women want to be in a relationship, however they should not marry. Marriage is between a man and a woman.
how are they the same?
they are both NOYB.
nobody is asking you to participate.
polygamy situation, on the the other hand have a victim. At least one of the 3+ is being taken advantage of. It is not a equal partnership (actually by definition)
You’re right. Interracial marriage is not at all the same as gay marriage. There are key differences, as you have pointed out. However, I don’t see how the differences between men and women constitute marriage. I mean, I am also different from a parakeet, yet I am not allowed to marry the parakeet. That’s a ridiculous argument, but if you look at what you’re saying, there really is no difference. Men and women are different, therefore they can marry; men and parakeets are different, therefore _____. Why should the differences between men and woman lead to marriage? The gentiles, of course, are how children are created. However, barren women are still allowed to marry.
Children are, of course, crucial to society over all, and you’re absolutely right. Children do not need any more sexual confusion than they already have. It isn’t that confusing whether or not you want to marry a boy or a girl. You marry the person you fall in love with, no matter what gender they may be. This, at least, is clear to children. It’s easy and understood.
Perhaps most people believe that two men or two women can’t adequately raise a child. However, most people are wrong, and I know that from personal experience. My half sister, a caring heterosexual woman with two great kids and a loving husband, was raised by two women. Her children have two grandmothers. They are totally well adjusted and normal children, and my sister is a totally normal and well adjusted woman. In fact, my half brother- raised by a man and a woman- is far less stable than my sister. He does drugs and doesn’t take care of his children as well as he should. There’s a chance they will eventually be taken away from him. This is my personal experience; what I have seen with my own eyes. Society can be really screwed up at times, and a screwed society often produces screwed up children. It’s better for any child to have two loving parents than a dysfunctional family, no matter what the genders of the parents are.
The argument is some homosexuals believe in same sex marriage, since gays are discriminated against they feel we should redefine marriage, because they want to have their relationships honored in the law, but the same argument could be said for Muslims and polygamy.
Honestly, I don’t understand what’s so wrong about polygamy, either. As long as no other laws are being broken- all parties are aware of the agreement and totally consent- it’s a different way to live your life. Isn’t America supposed to have religious freedom? And, honestly, polygamy and gay marriage are two entirely different beasts. Just because gays are allowed to marry doesn’t mean that people will call out for pedophilia and bestiality to be legalized, the same goes with polygamy. We represent two entirely different groups. Being gay isn’t a religion; it’s a lifestyle. It’s something that starts from birth, something that you really can’t control. Religion is different in that way. You can change your beliefs, people do all the time, but you can’t change your sexual orientation, not really.
I don’t understand why anyone would think that a gay or lesbian couple would want to get married in a church where they are not welcomed. It doesn’t make sense. There is no such thing as “the gay agenda,” despite what many heterosexuals think. We’re not trying to convert anyone, we just want to have equal rights to everyone else. As far as teaching it in school, well, no one said that teachers have to say favorable things about it. It only has to be mentioned, not condoned. Education must be separated from religion, and almost all arguments against homosexuality are founded in religion. Separation between church and state, remember?
It’s late, I’m sick, the argument could have been better. But I really need to go to bed. I hope this helped enlighten anyone.
How are they the same?
Interracial marriage was illegal in many states until just 40 years ago. It took a ruling by the Supreme Court to make it so a marriage between a black person and a white person could be recognized in all 50 states. The same thing will happen with same sex marriage. I do take issue with your black/white psyche comment. Races are different and to grow up as a black person in America is a very different thing than growing up as a white person in America, just like growing up a man and a woman are two different things.
To disallow gay people from even civil marriage (outside of a church) is to not allow a group of people to enter a legal contract. That's discrimination and that's against the law. If I take your argument about gay people raising children: 1) there are plenty of gay people raising children without marriages right now. 2) If we say that certain people cannot raise children because they don't get the influence of both genders, then let's start taking children away from single parents. Making it ';about the children'; is BS. Kids pretty much only care that they're loved and wanted.
I don't think polygamy is the same issue. Right now, singular marriage is legal and we're excluding people from it. Multiple marriages are not valid. While homosexuality and polygamy are not the same thing, I personally don't see what business it is of the government's whether I want to marry one or four people or a woman. As long as I pay my taxes, etc. That's where the indivdual churches can make their decisions about what they allow in religious marriage.
Interracial marriages and same sex marriages are not the same ..
And I am not going to call you anything but truthful ..
If you or I or anyone are involved with a person of a different race . and we love this person , we should not be judged because the color of the skin .. I lived with a black man for 3 years , it was the best part of my life . Although we went broke up , it had nothing to do with color ..
I have a friend who is lesbian , Im not offended by her choice in gender , I have to wonder why , someday perhaps I will ask her ..
Her partner has 2 children that are black so somewhere along the line
she changed ... Dunnno the answer to that either ..
Yes some muslims do believe in polygamy , no it shouldn't be legal
nor honered ..
I am from the old school , meaning of course older , Ihave tried to adjust to these differnent things , I find it hard sometimes ..
We are human beings , we love , we hate , we trust we forgive ..
I will leave this saying . '; God created Adam and Eve';
Not Adam and Adam nor Adam Adam and eve and eve .
Just my thoughts
Five year olds don't experience sexual confusion because they don't think about sex. Mostly they just love their parents with no regard for their parents' sexuality. It's common for heterosexual kids to be raised by gay parents and gay kids to be raised by straight parents.
The Muslim issue is a false conclusion. Gays are entitled to Equal Protection under the Constitution because heterosexuals are allowed to marry. Polygamy is illegal for everyone.
My ex husband has custody of our two girls. He's doing a fine job with them. He's perfectly competent as a man to raise daughters. Parenting isn't about gender, it's about love and willingness.
I disagree with all your arguments and conclusions.
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